纯工程师团队，感觉都比较佛系一点，这也是吸引我的地方，值得一起构建有趣的产品，只是每次都不知道该做点什么，虽然也已经在其他地方积累了很多的 dapp 的经验，但是有时候并不清楚 nervos 需要啥？专注在在哪个方向，大家都在往哪块使劲。。。
比如我目前最喜欢的几个链：
以太坊依然在做 defi 和 新技术试验田
波卡依然在工程层面不断深入探索 serverless 应用模型
zcash 在 隐私币领域的深耕，让它成为 btc 的隐私继任者
nervos 目前看到在发力 fiber？是想在 支付领域 扎根下去嘛？
channels are good for interoperability too, additionally there’s the Perun project working on ETH<>CKB swaps (and investigating Fiber compatibility).
BTCFi in channels using Fiber could be really interesting. To answer your question I’m not sure there really is a focus, Fiber is definitely a priority from core dev side but I can see efforts growing in different directions, like quantum-resistance for example, AT Proto social networks, or even privacy (if someone would just implement the cryptography!).
Welcome to the community!
That’s cool. I now building a payment gateway system, but it’s based on EVM. Maybe can access fiber service, but Im not sure, because it looks like need more requirements? on user-side.
And I also have an auditable zk assets technology and Im I’m integrating it with AI. If privacy is also a concern for Nervos, maybe there is definitely an opportunity.
For anybody else wondering, a brief search reveals: GitHub - PostSiliconDev/AuditZero: Seamless, privacy-preserving payment with auditability.
Haha, you got it, that was a privacy asset protocol we designed before, and I’m currently re-designing it, making it more simpler and more convenient for cross-chain transfer based on Verkle tree + plonk (not finished yet).
Hi
matt已经介绍了很多了，除外像RGB++在UTXO链层面做互操作性也是发展方向
不过往外跳一层，其实可以看看Web5这种架构思路，Web3部分是BTC/CKB(RGB++) + Fiber, Web2部分是AT Protocol，让应用确实好用起来
不过，我觉得为何不从真的你想做的好玩的事情开始试试呢
比如前段时间也有一位新加入社区的Sonny做了这个
另外，有任何想法，都欢迎申请Spark快速启动试试!
总之，Welcome！
If you are so kind to entertain my curiosity, let me ask a couple of questions. When you first started learning ZK:
For reference: I would love to learn more about ZK, I’m an dev comfortable with Nervos L1 on-chain contracts and simple front-ends.
Phroi
嗯，感谢，我准备先把 nervos 生态的稳定币集成到我的支付网关中，毕竟是个很实用的工具，然后再逐步建设更多的好玩的产品来。
I started learning about zero-knowledge proofs in 2019 when I joined secbit labs.
At that time, the best learning materials were various ZK papers, mainly about different zk schemes. This was because papers were more advanced than engineering projects, and there were very few projects(code) to refer to. e.g. bellman.
Then, I learned about various underlying cryptographic knowledge by participating in the cryptographic libraries of ZK, like arkworks-rs. At this time, start need more math knowledge.
So, Now, already there are various libraries to learn. If you’re want to quickly develop a real-world tools, I recommend starting with zk-DSL, such as Circom (firstly work), and then learning the classic Groth16 library, along with the latest scheme approach (improve performace). Finally, if want, you can deeper into lower-level mathematics and theories (design algo).
有Devrel相关问题，欢迎在Nervos DC的Developer区交流Discord
Devrel team一定会很乐意提供support
Wow @neosun, that’s quite a career right there, congrats!!
I was wondering, ZK is still rapidly evolving both as research and engineering, how do you stay up to date on ZK developments?
Just to give me an idea, could you link here a few recent papers / talks you found interesting and why they mattered to you?
Keep in mind I’m not a CKB Dev Rel, I’m just an Independent Dev in Nervos L1 who stuck around for long enough.
Phroi
Very cool that you were part of secbit and are still here to chat with us about CKB!
(For everyone’s reference, secbit was part of the first round of grant recipients in 2020)
No problem bro, you need join the clean cryptography group which will share some new papers daily. and follow some top cryptographer’s social media (mostly twitter), they will also share some news. Because many time, when a new paper comes out, if you don’t have the enough time to study it, you can look at other people’s discussions to see if it meets your needs.
If possible, we can have contact (TG: sunhuachuang). If I see any good news/papers, can also share it with you.