Cannot open the CKB DAO voting page

My bro asked me to pass along this message because he does not have an account to post here.

He wants to vote against the recent proposals, but he cannot open the pages:

  1. https://dao.ckb.community/thread/vot-fiberlatch-access-open-source-access-control-for-fiber-payments-74170
  2. https://dao.ckb.community/thread/vot-vellum-reputation-extension-on-did-ckb-74299

The pages keep loading and remain pending, but no content is displayed.

He is also against proposal https://dao.ckb.community/thread/vot-rypto-ckb-content-advocacy-campaign-74122, but he was unable to vote before the poll closed.

BTW, I also noticed a message in telegram from a MOD saying that Metaforo is slow to load

And I cannot visit it too.

I think the poll should be suspended until the accessibility problem is fixed.

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same issue for me

Hi CDEX,

访问缓慢的问题从发生以来,已经多次反馈给了metaforo团队

目前我自己尝试时,大概一半的情况下能正常打开投票页面,在metaforo团队修复问题前,建议多尝试刷新页面 :folded_hands:t2:

The access issues for Metaforo have been resolved. Community members are welcome to check and cast their votes. If you encounter any further issues, please feel free to reach out.

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He can access the page now, but the poll https://dao.ckb.community/thread/vot-fiberlatch-access-open-source-access-control-for-fiber-payments-74170 has just closed. How should we handle this?

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I will vote for any proposal to replace metaforo. It’s an acceptable temperary solution but deviates from CKB ethos.

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During the slow issue, metaforo is still possible to access and vote, after refreshing a few times. For that reason, I would lean towards maintaining the current situation.

Of course, this is purely my personal opinion, and any decision lies beyond my responsibilities as a coordinator. Perhaps the community could consider initiating a vote on this.

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我个人认为补齐规则是更好的选择。如果明确遇到平台技术故障/可用性问题,是不是应该有个补偿机制,类似延后截止时间或者是在什么时候在投票,尤其是例如有小伙伴想投但是没办法投票的时候。

例如类似DDOS攻击是每个平台都可能遇到的问题,类似打MEMES的时候,当时自动脚本开的太多了,导致RPC服务队列排队太多,都用到了Kill -9 进程,缓存队列排队的业务丢了也没办法。

技术并不能解决一切问题。 我个人认为补齐规则是更好的选择。

当然如果Metaforo平台因为没钱维护准备下线的话,是需要提前准备的,大部分之前的币圈项目看起来都要归零了。

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I tried refreshing the page several times with 2 devices under wifi and cellular network, but was unable to visit it, so I’m not sure whether the issue is region-specific.

However, the fact remains that my friend was unable to vote against the proposal.

During the slow issue, metaforo is still possible to access and vote, after refreshing a few times. For that reason, I would lean towards maintaining the current situation.

Of course, this is purely my personal opinion, and any decision lies beyond my responsibilities as a coordinator. Perhaps the community could consider initiating a vote on this.

I understand that this is a personal opinion, would the team of DAO or someone/team share their opinion? a more official one. thank you.

I strongly agree with this. I also noticed that the MOD had already identified this issue before some of the proposals were opened for voting.

In my view, the team should have this issue resolved or at least established a clear plan before allowing any new proposals to enter the voting stage.

Regardless of whether I like the current voting implementation or not, we—the community—and this operator/manager cannot allow ourselves to be swayed by claims such as “I wanted to vote, but it didn’t work.” There are at least a thousand reasons why individuals might not be able to vote at a given time.
If there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that there were voting implementation issues—such as technical glitches—when a vote took place, then a re-vote should not be ruled out. Otherwise, those responsible for technology and infrastructure could manipulate the election results.
In this case, there were several independent reports of problems. It’s a decision made on a case-by-case basis.

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I’m glad to see that another MOD has noticed this issue([DIS] Vellum: Reputation Extension on did:ckb - #4 by neon.bit)

@neon.bit what is your view on this? Can the community expect an official response to the votes that were missed due to this access issue?

You mean you want them to reverse proposals that have already passed so you can vote NO?

I don’t think I ever said that. If I did, please point me to where I said it.

I’m not a mod

In my opinion, the Metaforo issue was quite annoying, and resulted in delayed loading times. In the long term, we’ll need an alternative solution. However, based on the amount of time those proposals were up for consideration in both phase 1 and 2, there was a large window of opportunity for people to raise questions or concerns, or for more people to express that they wanted to vote but couldn’t.

With that clarified, I would appreciate if my request in the other thread could be addressed. If we value the importance of encouraging and retaining developers, as you have pointed out in the past, then I believe giving constructive feedback on proposals and giving developers an opportunity to respond is a necessary part of that.

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Thank you for the clarification.

I will check the concern and reply in that thread

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